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Wonderful Women -alliteration and a fallacy
Here's a long and drawn out story about why girls suck, I'll try to keep it short and leave out the inane details.
I'm a 23 y/o bartender at a state park resort, been there for 3+ years, worked in other departments, blah blah. Know everybody that works there. I always try, every once in a while, to possibly start a friendship (then a possible relationship) with one of the girls there. Never works though. "TJ, you're too nice." [b][i]My favorite one[/i][/b].
I'm the nerdy type.(Nerdy bartender? Not many of those) High scores on SAT, ACT, you get my drift. All-around genuine nice guy(yeah lots of guys say that, but I really am nice). Haven't been in a real relationship in the last 3 years, I've liked the solitude and time with my family and friends. But I'm looking now. Just someone to talk to, spend time with, yadda...
Sooooo, there's this girl that's been working there for 2+ years, in the dining room. We've had conversations many a time, we're both college graduates with no job prospects in line, failed relationships in the past, and so on, bottom line is I feel we're compatible. Or through dating and whatnot we can become compatible.
So, I'm back working in the banquet dept because I need some more hours, and I get to work with her quite a bit, being in the kitchen most of the time. Whenever the girls in the dining room need help, usu. when she's there, I will ask if she needs help, or sometimes she'll ask me for help. Since I like her, I will most always say yes.
We will also take breaks together, smoke, talk about lots of stuff. Recently, within the last week, we've had conversations along the lines of... Her:"I bet, since you're single, you are like all the rest. An asshole." Conversations similar to that. Conversations that seem like they might be disguised as signals, we all know those. Another one, she walks in a conference room and asks, "hey TJ, what are you doing tonight?" I freak out inside, and say something along the lines of, the ususal. going home and going to bed. She then asks me to help her close in the dining room. I should have known then, as women are [i]master magicians[/i].
Tonight, 2 of my coworkers, women, were digging around in conversation with her and her sister, oh yeah, she's 22 and sister's 26 or 25. Annyhow.., they get on the conversation about me. Guess what, she heard of my fondness of her--I had an army fighting for me at work to get "hooked up" with her--. I'm not her "type" and it's great that I like her because she has somebody help her (off the clock, by the way) get out of here faster(i've never received help from her, i've never asked though). The work "perk" was used. I'm a fucking "perk"! Bullshit. I have feelings.
It really pisses me off, since I rarely have an interest in a specific girl. Last one was 2 years ago.
So, I'm in a predicament. She has no idea that I heard of this conversation. I really like this girl. Guys, this girl is super sweet, nice, beautiful, head on her shoulders, an amazing person. Am I to keep helping her out when she needs, probably not, however I love helping out anyone, not just her. Should I treat her any differently, probably not, since I am a nice guy, I am not vindictive, although I am hurt by this. Or I can read the howtos on the site and learn how to get her to like me, blow off some of my ultra-nice exterior and interior. Probably not on that one, I've never been able to get a girl to really like me, I wait for them to grab me or I grab them when they're drunk ( :idea: hey that's not a bad idea again).
Whaddya think?

I think she'll just end up using you and taking advantage of your kindness and feelings for her. Using your feelings for her, to help get her work done...what is that crap? She may seem fantastic, but obviously she has a manipulative side. I wouldn't help her anymore (you may be really nice, but there's a difference in being nice, and being someone's doormat).
^^^Agreed with Jenn
quite frankly i hate girls (or guys) that manipulate other people,period..I've seen to many times people that seem and are nice but in the end they are nothing more than bitches or assholes.. Hell, i've had one as my girlfriend for 4 years and 8 months...During all that time she was allways nice and kind.. but it took less than a month after break up for me to see how bitch she really was..(and by bitch i dont mean slut...)..
quite frankly i hate girls (or guys) that manipulate other people,period..I've seen to many times people that seem and are nice but in the end they are nothing more than bitches or assholes.. Hell, i've had one as my girlfriend for 4 years and 8 months...During all that time she was allways nice and kind.. but it took less than a month after break up for me to see how bitch she really was..(and by bitch i dont mean slut...)..
It's not until you get into a fight that you see the real bitch in a woman. True story. :shock:
You say she's "super sweet, nice... an amazing person"? Are you freaking kidding me? She knows how you feel about her and she has the audacity to not only use you to "get out of there earlier" but to actually TELL THIS TO OTHER PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH?! And to refer to you, publicly, as a "perk"?
Oh yeah, she's really "amazing". Amazingly low-rent and unkind and immature. An amazing loser.
My boy, nice woman do not do that, she is a dump bitch who wants drama
That "wonderful woman" always seems wonderful at first, but she's only wonderful on her terms. These terms are usually so vague and misleading that you just get dragged in thinking you got a chance. This is where I give ice queens their due credit, cause at least they tell you upfront that you don't have a chance. But that perky girl next door or at work will be "nice" and let you do things for her. Some women just love the attention, but when its their time to give it back, they pull out the "friend" card and you're shit out luck.
You sound like you really really like her.
I'm in agreement with everyone else so far, her behaviour suggests she's not worth your time.
However, as a guy, I know that once we/our minds/hearts decide someone is the one we like, it doesn't have to make any goddam sense. Maybe you like her just because you see her often and we apes always covet those familiar things around us. Here's a few suggestions to get over her in order of simplicity.
1) Imagine her taking a shit. You know she does it. No matter how beautiful she is, how much her eyes glow when she smiles, how much her hair flows like music, you can be damn sure she presses out a nice brick turd at least once every 48 hours. So imagine it. Every aspect of it. The smell. The shape. The way it squeezes out. The sound of it plopping into the bowl. If you still feel all starry-eyed just thinking of her, you got problems beyond the help of this forum, buddy. Trust me, this works (at least temporarily).
2) Go get a hooker who looks like her. I can't imagine you are attracted to a woman who refers to you as a perk and manipulates you to do her work, so this chick must be quite easy on the eye. Good old lust has a simple cure. Bang this hooker every goddam night until you're so bored your wingwang goes instantly limp at the thought of her. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen. And believe me, at least for the next 24 hours after you bang someone who looks like her, you'll lose interest in the real her (why stress and strive at work when you can get all you want just by forking over some cash?). If you want, you can pay the callgirl extra to call you a perk and let you put up the chairs afterwards.
3) If you still want her, STOP ACTING LIKE A NICE GUY. Tom Hanks should be strung up by his balls for deluding the male public. Stop helping her at work. Go date her best friend. Bring a "prize" girlfriend to work (that callgirl from option 2 would be perfect). Get in a fight with someone unpopular at work (This happened to me once, and I swear I suddenly had female co-workers telling me they were DREAMING about me. Despite all the endless talk, women still basically want whoever they think is the alpha male.) Go down on all her friends. Your aim here is to get her girlfriends either talking about you in a positive way or talking about how much SHE missed out by not dating you when she had the chance. Once that happens, it's game set and match.
Now that you've got her, as suggested on this site, take her for a long long car trip somewhere. If she's anything like what she sounds like, by the end of it, you'll have that callgirl's name on speed dial.
That's all I got. Hope you had a good laugh and end up with someone worthy.
Man, I posted that last comment, and I've just realized how OLD the original post is. Oh well, maybe someone will still find it amusing.
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